MAF-arvoista 2.0TDI BMP

[b7745]

Moi

Tiedän, että aiheesta monta keskustelua, mutta mielipiteitä niiltä jotka asiasta ymmärtävät enemmän. Alla logitietoa 3/4/5 -vaihteella ajosta 003 ja 011 engine measuring blockeista.

Boldasin piiitkästä listasta kohtia, jossa MAF-pyynti alkaa olla enemmän kuin todellinen. Vierellä tietoa pyydetystä/toteutuneesta ahtopaineesta.

Onko MAfissa siis häikkää vai tulkitsenko asiaa väärin?

Autossa 180hv/400nm ohjelma(laitettu vuosi sitten 300tkm) ja nyt 325tkm mittarissa.

Auto ei herjaa vikakoodeja, mutta tuntuu että vetoja ei ole ihan samaan malliin kun muutama kuukausi takaperin..tai sitten on vaan totuttu lastuun.



RPM/MAF SPEC/MAF ACT RPM/CHARGE PRESSURE/ACTUAL PRESSURE
,,,,,,0.14,1974,850.0,980.0,100.6,0.29,2037,2284.8,1978.8,71.8
,,,,,,0.79,2205,850.0,1165.0,100.6,0.95,2205,2356.2,2315.4,61.2
,,,,,,1.13,2247,850.0,1195.0,100.6,1.29,2331,2458.2,2448.0,54.8
,,,,,,1.45,2394,850.0,1210.0,100.6,1.61,2415,2458.2,2539.8,52.1
,,,,,,1.78,2457,850.0,1255.0,100.6,1.94,2478,2468.4,2601.0,48.1
,,,,,,2.09,2499,850.0,1250.0,100.6,2.25,2541,2468.4,2601.0,46.2
,,,,,,2.42,2604,850.0,1230.0,100.6,2.58,2625,2468.4,2601.0,43.8
,,,,,,2.75,2709,850.0,1205.0,100.6,2.90,2688,2468.4,2580.6,42.6
,,,,,,3.08,2793,850.0,1215.0,100.6,3.25,2814,2478.6,2570.4,38.7
,,,,,,3.40,2814,850.0,1185.0,100.6,3.55,2898,2478.6,2550.0,35.1
,,,,,,3.73,2919,850.0,1185.0,100.6,3.88,2940,2478.6,2499.0,35.5
,,,,,,4.04,2961,850.0,1160.0,100.6,4.19,3045,2519.4,2417.4,45.0
,,,,,,4.37,2919,850.0,1065.0,100.6,4.54,2415,2448.0,2172.6,66.7
,,,,,,4.70,2121,850.0,1010.0,100.6,4.87,2163,2509.2,2142.0,53.3
,,,,,,5.04,2205,850.0,1170.0,100.6,5.19,2226,2509.2,2325.6,45.4
,,,,,,5.38,2247,850.0,1275.0,100.6,5.54,2289,2509.2,2519.4,41.8
,,,,,,5.69,2310,850.0,1265.0,100.6,5.85,2331,2509.2,2580.6,41.0
,,,,,,6.03,2373,850.0,1250.0,100.6,6.20,2394,2509.2,2580.6,41.0
,,,,,,6.37,2415,850.0,1235.0,100.6,6.57,2457,2509.2,2550.0,39.8
,,,,,,6.74,2478,850.0,1220.0,100.6,6.88,2499,2509.2,2509.2,40.6
,,,,,,7.04,2541,850.0,1170.0,100.6,7.21,2562,2519.4,2458.2,42.2
,,,,,,7.37,2604,850.0,1155.0,100.6,7.54,2625,2519.4,2407.2,44.6
,,,,,,7.71,2667,850.0,1140.0,100.6,7.88,2688,2519.4,2386.8,45.8
,,,,,,8.04,2709,850.0,1155.0,100.6,8.22,2751,2519.4,2397.0,46.6
,,,,,,8.38,2772,850.0,1155.0,100.6,8.54,2814,2519.4,2417.4,46.9
,,,,,,8.71,2835,850.0,1170.0,100.6,8.87,2856,2519.4,2437.8,46.6
,,,,,,9.02,2898,850.0,1155.0,100.6,9.18,2919,2519.4,2448.0,47.3
,,,,,,9.36,2940,850.0,1150.0,100.6,9.52,2982,2519.4,2458.2,46.9
,,,,,,9.68,3003,850.0,1140.0,100.6,9.86,3024,2519.4,2448.0,50.5
,,,,,,10.03,3045,850.0,1130.0,100.6,10.20,3066,2499.0,2427.6,50.1
,,,,,,10.37,3108,850.0,1110.0,100.6,10.53,3129,2437.8,2427.6,52.1
,,,,,,10.70,3129,850.0,1105.0,100.6,10.85,3150,2305.2,2397.0,52.1
,,,,,,11.03,3171,850.0,1040.0,100.6,11.18,3192,2264.4,2315.4,54.8
,,,,,,11.34,3192,850.0,1045.0,100.6,11.49,3213,2244.0,2295.0,52.9
,,,,,,11.67,3234,850.0,1035.0,100.6,11.82,3255,2233.8,2284.8,49.3
,,,,,,11.98,3255,850.0,1030.0,100.6,12.14,3276,2152.2,2274.6,44.6
,,,,,,12.33,3276,850.0,990.0,100.6,12.49,3297,2009.4,2203.2,46.2
,,,,,,12.65,3297,850.0,945.0,100.6,12.81,3318,1907.4,2111.4,39.8
,,,,,,12.99,3318,850.0,910.0,100.6,13.15,3339,1846.2,2029.8,43.0
,,,,,,13.31,3339,850.0,860.0,100.6,13.47,3360,1805.4,1958.4,42.6
,,,,,,13.66,3360,850.0,830.0,100.6,13.83,3360,1713.6,1887.0,41.0
,,,,,,14.00,3360,850.0,805.0,100.6,14.17,3360,1652.4,1805.4,39.5
,,,,,,14.32,3360,850.0,765.0,100.6,14.48,3381,1509.6,1723.8,39.8
,,,,,,14.64,3381,850.0,710.0,100.6,14.81,3381,1509.6,1611.6,44.2
,,,,,,14.97,3381,850.0,680.0,100.6,15.12,3381,1509.6,1550.4,45.8
,,,,,,15.28,3402,850.0,655.0,100.6,15.45,3402,1509.6,1519.8,46.9
,,,,,,15.61,3402,850.0,660.0,100.6,15.76,3402,1489.2,1489.2,47.3
,,,,,,15.92,3402,850.0,645.0,100.6,16.09,3402,1489.2,1479.0,47.7
,,,,,,16.25,3402,850.0,635.0,100.6,16.41,3402,1489.2,1468.8,48.1
,,,,,,16.60,3402,850.0,640.0,100.6,16.76,3402,1448.4,1458.6,46.2
,,,,,,16.92,3402,850.0,635.0,100.6,17.08,3423,1438.2,1448.4,47.3
,,,,,,17.25,3423,850.0,615.0,100.6,17.40,3423,1438.2,1417.8,48.5
,,,,,,17.56,3423,850.0,620.0,100.6,17.72,3423,1438.2,1407.6,48.5
,,,,,,17.89,3402,850.0,610.0,100.6,18.04,3423,1428.0,1407.6,48.5
,,,,,,18.20,3402,850.0,605.0,100.6,18.36,3402,1417.8,1397.4,48.9
,,,,,,18.53,3402,850.0,600.0,100.6,18.69,3423,1417.8,1387.2,48.5
,,,,,,18.84,3423,850.0,610.0,100.6,19.00,3423,1407.6,1387.2,48.1
,,,,,,19.18,3402,850.0,595.0,100.6,19.33,3402,1387.2,1366.8,49.3
,,,,,,19.49,3402,850.0,595.0,100.6,19.67,3402,1377.0,1356.6,48.9
,,,,,,19.83,3402,850.0,595.0,100.6,19.99,3402,1387.2,1346.4,51.3
,,,,,,20.15,3402,850.0,580.0,100.6,20.33,3402,1417.8,1346.4,51.7
,,,,,,20.49,3402,850.0,600.0,100.6,20.65,3402,1448.4,1377.0,51.3
,,,,,,20.82,3402,850.0,635.0,100.6,20.97,3402,1438.2,1417.8,48.9
,,,,,,21.13,3402,850.0,630.0,100.6,21.29,3402,1438.2,1428.0,48.9
,,,,,,21.47,3402,850.0,640.0,100.6,21.62,3402,1428.0,1438.2,48.1
,,,,,,21.77,3402,850.0,615.0,100.6,21.93,3402,1428.0,1438.2,48.1
,,,,,,22.11,3402,850.0,635.0,100.6,22.27,3402,1417.8,1438.2,47.3
,,,,,,22.44,3402,850.0,635.0,100.6,22.60,3402,1407.6,1428.0,47.7
,,,,,,22.77,3402,850.0,615.0,100.6,22.93,3402,1407.6,1417.8,48.1
,,,,,,23.09,3402,850.0,605.0,100.6,23.24,3402,1407.6,1407.6,48.5
,,,,,,23.42,3402,850.0,610.0,100.6,23.59,3402,1397.4,1397.4,48.5
,,,,,,23.74,3402,850.0,605.0,100.6,23.90,3381,1397.4,1397.4,48.5
,,,,,,24.07,3381,850.0,595.0,100.6,24.23,3381,1397.4,1397.4,48.9
,,,,,,24.38,3402,850.0,610.0,100.6,24.54,3381,1397.4,1387.2,48.9
,,,,,,24.72,3381,850.0,605.0,100.6,24.88,3381,1387.2,1387.2,49.3
,,,,,,25.04,3381,850.0,615.0,100.6,25.22,3381,1397.4,1387.2,49.3
,,,,,,25.38,3381,850.0,605.0,100.6,25.54,3381,1397.4,1387.2,49.7
,,,,,,25.72,3381,850.0,600.0,100.6,25.89,3381,1387.2,1387.2,49.7
,,,,,,26.06,3381,850.0,595.0,100.6,26.23,3381,1377.0,1387.2,49.3
,,,,,,26.39,3381,850.0,605.0,100.6,26.54,3381,1366.8,1377.0,48.9
,,,,,,26.70,3360,850.0,600.0,100.6,26.87,3360,1366.8,1366.8,49.7
,,,,,,27.03,3360,850.0,600.0,100.6,27.20,3360,1366.8,1366.8,49.7
,,,,,,27.37,3360,850.0,600.0,100.6,27.53,3360,1366.8,1366.8,49.7
,,,,,,27.68,3360,850.0,590.0,100.6,27.84,3360,1366.8,1356.6,50.1
,,,,,,28.01,3318,850.0,605.0,100.6,28.17,3318,1377.0,1366.8,50.1
,,,,,,28.32,3066,825.0,630.0,100.6,28.48,2562,1417.8,1356.6,63.5
,,,,,,28.66,2541,590.0,635.0,100.6,28.83,2499,1448.4,1356.6,63.5
,,,,,,29.00,2499,625.0,675.0,100.6,29.19,2520,1887.0,1468.8,75.0
,,,,,,29.36,2520,705.0,840.0,100.6,29.53,2562,2244.0,1744.2,69.0
,,,,,,29.70,2583,850.0,1045.0,100.6,29.86,2541,2458.2,2142.0,56.8
,,,,,,30.03,2562,850.0,1215.0,100.6,30.21,2562,2468.4,2509.2,46.2
,,,,,,30.37,2562,850.0,1265.0,100.6,30.53,2583,2468.4,2601.0,43.4
,,,,,,30.68,2604,850.0,1245.0,100.6,30.86,2604,2468.4,2601.0,43.0
,,,,,,31.01,2625,850.0,1225.0,100.6,31.17,2625,2468.4,2601.0,41.0
,,,,,,31.32,2646,850.0,1205.0,100.6,31.50,2667,2468.4,2570.4,40.6
,,,,,,31.65,2667,850.0,1185.0,100.6,31.81,2667,2458.2,2529.6,40.2
,,,,,,31.97,2688,850.0,1135.0,100.6,32.14,2688,2458.2,2458.2,41.8
,,,,,,32.29,2709,850.0,1135.0,100.6,32.45,2709,2458.2,2376.6,45.0
,,,,,,32.61,2730,850.0,1105.0,100.6,32.78,2730,2437.8,2315.4,48.9
,,,,,,32.94,2751,850.0,1080.0,100.6,33.09,2751,2427.6,2274.6,51.7
,,,,,,33.25,2772,850.0,1080.0,100.6,33.42,2793,2366.4,2284.8,52.5
,,,,,,33.58,2793,850.0,1085.0,100.6,33.73,2793,2366.4,2295.0,53.3
,,,,,,33.89,2814,850.0,1095.0,100.6,34.06,2814,2315.4,2305.2,52.9
,,,,,,34.22,2814,850.0,1060.0,100.6,34.38,2814,2274.6,2264.4,56.0
,,,,,,34.56,2835,850.0,1040.0,100.6,34.72,2835,2254.2,2223.6,55.6
,,,,,,34.87,2835,850.0,1025.0,100.6,35.03,2835,2101.2,2203.2,49.7
,,,,,,35.21,2856,850.0,970.0,100.6,35.38,2856,1805.4,2111.4,33.5
,,,,,,35.55,2835,765.0,815.0,100.6,35.73,2835,1448.4,1795.2,46.9
,,,,,,35.89,2856,730.0,640.0,100.6,36.04,2856,1438.2,1519.8,52.5
,,,,,,36.21,2856,730.0,630.0,100.6,36.37,2835,1428.0,1428.0,53.3
,,,,,,36.53,2835,725.0,620.0,100.6,36.68,2835,1417.8,1407.6,54.1
,,,,,,36.85,2835,715.0,630.0,100.6,37.01,2835,1417.8,1397.4,54.1
,,,,,,37.16,2835,715.0,620.0,100.6,37.32,2835,1407.6,1387.2,54.4
,,,,,,37.49,2835,710.0,625.0,100.6,37.65,2835,1397.4,1387.2,53.7
,,,,,,37.80,2835,705.0,610.0,100.6,37.97,2835,1397.4,1387.2,54.1
,,,,,,38.14,2835,700.0,625.0,100.6,38.30,2814,1397.4,1387.2,54.4
,,,,,,38.46,2835,705.0,625.0,100.6,38.64,2835,1397.4,1377.0,54.4
,,,,,,38.81,2814,700.0,630.0,100.6,38.98,2814,1397.4,1377.0,54.4
,,,,,,39.15,2814,700.0,625.0,100.6,39.30,2814,1397.4,1387.2,54.1
,,,,,,39.46,2814,695.0,625.0,100.6,39.62,2814,1366.8,1387.2,52.9
,,,,,,39.80,2814,685.0,615.0,100.6,39.95,2814,1366.8,1377.0,53.7
,,,,,,40.12,2793,680.0,620.0,100.6,40.27,2793,1346.4,1366.8,52.1
,,,,,,40.45,2793,635.0,600.0,100.6,40.60,2709,1111.8,1346.4,48.5
,,,,,,40.76,2709,410.0,545.0,100.6,40.92,2751,1020.0,1254.6,48.5
,,,,,,41.10,2751,415.0,490.0,100.6,41.26,2730,1020.0,1173.0,50.9
,,,,,,41.42,2730,410.0,490.0,100.6,41.59,2709,1020.0,1132.2,54.4
,,,,,,41.75,2709,410.0,480.0,100.6,41.92,2709,1020.0,1111.8,54.4
,,,,,,42.07,2688,410.0,480.0,100.6,42.25,2688,1020.0,1111.8,54.8
,,,,,,42.42,2667,410.0,485.0,100.6,42.57,2667,1020.0,1101.6,54.8
,,,,,,42.73,2646,410.0,475.0,100.6,42.90,2646,1020.0,1101.6,55.2
,,,,,,43.06,2646,410.0,480.0,100.6,43.21,2625,1020.0,1101.6,55.2
,,,,,,43.37,2625,410.0,485.0,100.6,43.55,2604,1020.0,1101.6,55.6
,,,,,,43.71,2604,405.0,485.0,100.6,43.87,2604,1020.0,1101.6,56.0
,,,,,,44.03,2583,405.0,485.0,100.6,44.20,2583,1020.0,1101.6,56.0
,,,,,,44.36,2583,405.0,485.0,100.6,44.53,2562,1020.0,1101.6,56.4
,,,,,,44.69,2562,405.0,495.0,100.6,44.87,2562,1020.0,1101.6,56.4
,,,,,,45.03,2541,405.0,485.0,100.6,45.18,2541,1020.0,1101.6,56.8
,,,,,,45.34,2541,405.0,485.0,100.6,45.52,2520,1020.0,1101.6,56.8
,,,,,,45.69,2520,405.0,490.0,100.6,45.86,2499,1020.0,1101.6,57.2
,,,,,,46.03,2499,400.0,490.0,100.6,46.18,2499,969.0,1101.6,57.2
,,,,,,46.34,2478,395.0,490.0,100.6,46.49,2478,958.8,1101.6,57.2
,,,,,,46.68,2457,385.0,495.0,100.6,46.83,2457,1050.6,1101.6,57.2
,,,,,,47.00,2457,385.0,495.0,100.6,47.17,2436,1071.0,1101.6,57.2
,,,,,,47.33,2436,375.0,505.0,100.6,47.48,2436,1060.8,1101.6,57.2
,,,,,,47.63,2436,370.0,495.0,100.6,47.81,2415,1091.4,1111.8,57.2
,,,,,,47.97,2415,370.0,505.0,100.6,48.13,2415,1162.8,1111.8,57.2
,,,,,,48.31,2415,370.0,505.0,100.6,48.47,2415,1203.6,1122.0,56.8
,,,,,,48.62,2415,365.0,535.0,100.6,48.78,2415,1244.4,1132.2,60.0
,,,,,,48.95,2394,360.0,550.0,100.6,49.11,2394,1244.4,1173.0,58.4
,,,,,,49.27,2352,345.0,575.0,100.6,49.45,2373,1132.2,1183.2,54.1
,,,,,,49.61,2373,350.0,520.0,100.6,49.77,2352,1111.8,1152.6,54.8
,,,,,,49.92,2352,345.0,520.0,100.6,50.10,2352,1122.0,1142.4,57.2
,,,,,,50.26,2352,345.0,515.0,100.6,50.42,2352,1173.0,1132.2,57.2
,,,,,,50.60,2373,355.0,515.0,100.6,50.77,2352,1315.8,1142.4,63.9
,,,,,,50.94,2352,405.0,580.0,100.6,51.11,2331,1366.8,1213.8,63.1
,,,,,,51.26,2331,415.0,610.0,100.6,51.42,2331,1366.8,1275.0,60.8
,,,,,,51.58,2331,435.0,615.0,100.6,51.75,2331,1417.8,1315.8,63.5
,,,,,,51.92,2331,475.0,650.0,100.6,52.07,2331,1448.4,1356.6,64.3
,,,,,,52.25,2331,515.0,675.0,100.6,52.41,2352,1621.8,1417.8,75.4
,,,,,,52.57,2331,570.0,735.0,100.6,52.73,2331,1744.2,1530.0,75.8
,,,,,,52.90,2331,600.0,805.0,100.6,53.06,2331,1846.2,1662.6,73.4
,,,,,,53.23,2331,635.0,870.0,100.6,53.40,2331,1887.0,1795.2,66.7
,,,,,,53.55,2331,640.0,900.0,100.6,53.71,2331,1887.0,1876.8,63.9
,,,,,,53.87,2331,640.0,930.0,100.6,54.04,2331,1907.4,1938.0,63.5
,,,,,,54.19,2331,660.0,930.0,100.6,54.35,2331,1907.4,1968.6,61.9
,,,,,,54.51,2331,660.0,945.0,100.6,54.68,2352,1907.4,1989.0,61.2
,,,,,,54.84,2331,660.0,955.0,100.6,54.99,2352,1907.4,1999.2,59.6
,,,,,,55.15,2352,665.0,970.0,100.6,55.32,2331,1907.4,2009.4,58.0
,,,,,,55.48,2352,670.0,955.0,100.6,55.64,2352,1907.4,2019.6,58.4
,,,,,,55.82,2352,670.0,965.0,100.6,55.98,2352,1907.4,2019.6,57.2
,,,,,,56.13,2352,675.0,955.0,100.6,56.29,2352,1907.4,2019.6,57.6
,,,,,,56.47,2352,675.0,940.0,100.6,56.63,2352,1907.4,2009.4,57.6
,,,,,,56.79,2352,675.0,930.0,100.6,56.95,2352,1907.4,2009.4,58.0
,,,,,,57.13,2352,680.0,950.0,100.6,57.29,2352,1907.4,1999.2,56.8
,,,,,,57.45,2352,675.0,955.0,100.6,57.60,2436,1907.4,1999.2,54.1
,,,,,,57.78,2667,830.0,900.0,100.6,57.93,2940,1825.8,1989.0,41.0
,,,,,,58.09,3171,850.0,895.0,100.6,58.25,3150,1999.2,2040.0,44.6
,,,,,,58.44,3150,850.0,1010.0,100.6,58.60,3192,2203.2,2162.4,48.1
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[Jultsu]

Tuosta on pikkaisen paha mennä sanomaan mitä siellä oikeasti tapahtuu kun ei näe N75 ohjausta tai kaasupolkimen asentoa. Tuossa 3400 kierroksen kohdilla junnataan pitkään ja sitten yhtäkkiä ahtopynnit tippuvat 1.5 barista 0.5 bariin (ja todelliset ahdot seuraavat myös pyyntiä) jolloin loogisesti myös MAF-anturin lukemakin pienenee. Onko tuossa kenties ajettu jyrkässä ylämäessä kaasu pohjassa ja sitten höllätty?

[b7745]

Moi

Taisi siinä joutua jossain vaiheessa hölläämään, kun vauhtia alkoi kertyä kitkoille vähän liikaa..)

Lähinnä vaan kyselin, kun MAF-pyynti edelleen tuossa tilanteessa 850 ja todellinen tippuu 500-600 kieppeille, mutta lienee normaalia, kun ahdot tippuu.

Onko tuossa muuten mitään ongelmaa, että MAF työntää ilmaa reilusti enemmän kiihdytyksessä(ainakin prosentuaalisesti) kuin pyynti on? Tyhjäkäynnillä melkein 500 todellinen arvo, kun pyynti 300 luokkaa? Polttoaineen kulutus lisääntyy?

Vai johtuuko sitten tuosta teho-ohjelmasta.

Ja miten tuo 1,5bar ahtopaine, meneekö jo hyvän maun rajoilla?

[pertti108]

Makua ja makua mutta ei sitä tehoa saa ilman painetta.

[Jultsu]

Moi

Taisi siinä joutua jossain vaiheessa hölläämään, kun vauhtia alkoi kertyä kitkoille vähän liikaa..)

Lähinnä vaan kyselin, kun MAF-pyynti edelleen tuossa tilanteessa 850 ja todellinen tippuu 500-600 kieppeille, mutta lienee normaalia, kun ahdot tippuu.

Onko tuossa muuten mitään ongelmaa, että MAF työntää ilmaa reilusti enemmän kiihdytyksessä(ainakin prosentuaalisesti) kuin pyynti on? Tyhjäkäynnillä melkein 500 todellinen arvo, kun pyynti 300 luokkaa? Polttoaineen kulutus lisääntyy?

Vai johtuuko sitten tuosta teho-ohjelmasta.

Ja miten tuo 1,5bar ahtopaine, meneekö jo hyvän maun rajoilla?

MAF ei työnnä ilmaa, ahdin ahtaa ilmaa ja MAF haistelee paljonko sitä siitä liikkuu ohitse.

Voima syntyy dieselmoottoreissa polttoainetta polttamalla, ilmaa ei palamisprosessiin tarvita juuri nimeksikään mikäli ei välitä tuhdista mustasta savuverhosta auton perässä. Jos halutaan savusta eroon niin sitten kun sylintereihin syötetään tarpeeksi ilmaa (noin 14.6 grammaa per 1g polttoainetta) palamisen pitäisi olla täydellistä ja mustaa savua ei pitäisi syntyä ollenkaan.

Tästä voidaan tehdä johtopäätös että normaalin stokiometrisen seoksen omaavilla moottorin syöttökartoilla (eli vakio-ohjelmalla tai hyvin tehdyllä virisoftalla) pelkästään ahtopainetta nostamalla (ja ilmamäärää sylinterissä lisäämällä) ei saada mitään hyötyjä tehonäkökulmasta, ainoastaan haittoja ahtimen eliniän pienentyessä. Polttoainetta ei mene gramman tuhannesosaakaan enempää sylintereihin kuin mitä syöttökartoissa on määritelty kullekin kierrosluvun / kaasupolkimen asennon / lämpötilan / väännönrajoittimen syöttökarttojen kombinaatiossa.

[pertti108]

Niin no ois varmaan voinu vastata että tuommosia paineita niissä ruukaa olla ettei se savuta.